open https://gitlab.synchro.net/main/sbbs/-/issues/1001

In The Clans, the IBBS "stuff" needs the *.msg file and the attached cl*.* file to properly process packets, so it needs the semaphore created after sbbsecho unpacks the msg file.

Rather than a new feature, an option to have the robot not import the message and leave the file but still touch the semaphore would be great.

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https://gitlab.synchro.net/main/sbbs/-/issues/1001#note_7809

It looks like it would be a matter of adding an extra field to `struct robot`, adding a new key to set it, then having `import_netmail()` return some appropriate non-zero magic value when the robot name is matched instead of continuing at `sbbsecho.c:4700` and updating echocfg.c to allow setting it.

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https://gitlab.synchro.net/main/sbbs/-/issues/1001#note_7811

Too much magic here for me to hack it in I think.

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https://gitlab.synchro.net/main/sbbs/-/issues/1001#note_7812

Basically, I would configure like this:
```
[robot:The Clans League BD]
SemFile = /sbbs/data/clansibbs.now
KeepMSG = yes
```

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https://gitlab.synchro.net/main/sbbs/-/issues/1001#note_7813

I'll look at it.

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https://gitlab.synchro.net/main/sbbs/-/issues/1001#note_7815

What if the netmail comes in packet form - you'd want it exported to .msg?

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https://gitlab.synchro.net/main/sbbs/-/issues/1001#note_7816

Yes please.

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https://gitlab.synchro.net/main/sbbs/-/issues/1001#note_7817

Isn't that what already happens?

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https://gitlab.synchro.net/main/sbbs/-/issues/1001#note_7818

So yeah, here's a log of what currently happens, which does create the MSG file, but won't touch a semaphore:

```
2025-10-30 23:47:18 SBBSecho 3.30-FreeBSD master/1c123cf4a Oct 24 2025 Clang 19.1.7 (PID 17539) invoked with options: -ce
2025-10-30 23:47:18 Configured: 1 archivers, 11 linked-nodes, 1 echolists 2025-10-30 23:47:18 NetMail directory: /home/bbsdev/sbbs/fido/netmail/ 2025-10-30 23:47:18 Secure Inbound directory: /home/bbsdev/sbbs/fido/inbsecure/ 2025-10-30 23:47:18 Non-secure Inbound directory: /home/bbsdev/sbbs/fido/inbound/
2025-10-30 23:47:18 Outbound (BSO root) directory: /home/bbsdev/sbbs/fido/outbound
2025-10-30 23:47:18 Read 183 areas from ../data/areas.bbs
2025-10-30 23:47:18 Read 3 areas from ../data/badareas.lst
2025-10-30 23:47:18 Read 140 echo statistics from ../data/echostats.ini 2025-10-30 23:47:18 Importing /home/bbsdev/sbbs/fido/inbsecure/fr2eobr2.pkt (type 2+, 0.3KB) from 885:1/3 to 885:1/1
2025-10-30 23:47:18 Sanitized message attributes (LOCAL) at offset 111 of packet: /home/bbsdev/sbbs/fido/inbsecure/fr2eobr2.pkt
2025-10-30 23:47:18 The Clans League BD (885:1/3) To: The Clans League BD (885:1/1) Unknown user
2025-10-30 23:47:18 The Clans League BD (885:1/3) To: The Clans League BD (885:1/1) Exported to /home/bbsdev/sbbs/fido/netmail/1.msg
2025-10-30 23:47:18 import_netmail() returned 2
2025-10-30 23:47:18 Deleting /home/bbsdev/sbbs/fido/inbsecure/fr2eobr2.pkt (from line 6436)
2025-10-30 23:47:18 /home/bbsdev/sbbs/fido/netmail/1.msg The Clans League BD (885:1/3) To: The Clans League BD (885:1/1) Unknown user
2025-10-30 23:47:18 import_netmail(/home/bbsdev/sbbs/fido/netmail/1.msg) returned 2
2025-10-30 23:47:18 Writing 3 areas to ../data/badareas.lst
2025-10-30 23:47:18 Deleting /home/bbsdev/sbbs/ctrl/sbbsecho.bsy (from line 3231)
2025-10-30 23:47:18 SBBSecho (PID 17539) exiting with error level 0, Packets(1 imported, 0 sent)
```

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https://gitlab.synchro.net/main/sbbs/-/issues/1001#note_7819

Ah, I see, it exports *after* the Unknown user thing... so yeah.

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https://gitlab.synchro.net/main/sbbs/-/issues/1001#note_7819

Ah, I see, it exports *after* the Unknown user thing... so yeah, it would need to call `pkt_to_msg()` before returning.

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https://gitlab.synchro.net/main/sbbs/-/issues/1001#note_7821

So reading the echocfg help page for robot configuration, it says:

If the NetMail message has the In-Transit attribute flag set, it

will not be exported by SBBSecho back into a stored message (*.msg)
file. Therefore, it is recommended to include the In-Transit attribute
flag (0x20) in the Robot's Attributes value if the Robot (e.g. script)
is going to expect the message to be in the mail base.

This implies that so long as the in-transit flag is *not* set in the Robot's Attributes value (the default is 0, so not set is the default), the message should be exported back from the mail base to .msg format when the export_netmail() function is executed. Is that not occurring for you?

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https://gitlab.synchro.net/main/sbbs/-/issues/1001#note_7822

I could make an option to *skip* the mail base phase (since it does seem unnecessary in your use case). But it does seem it should be happening now anyway, so I'm curious why it wouldn't be.

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https://gitlab.synchro.net/main/sbbs/-/issues/1001#note_7826

It's returning zero, so it's deleting the MSG file before it's touching the semaphore. :laughing:

```
2025-11-01 05:15:38 SBBSecho 3.31-FreeBSD master/320d6a775 Nov 01 2025 Clang 19.1.7 (PID 46916) invoked with options: -ce
2025-11-01 05:15:38 Configured: 1 archivers, 11 linked-nodes, 0 echolists 2025-11-01 05:15:38 NetMail directory: /sbbs/fido/netmail/
2025-11-01 05:15:38 Secure Inbound directory: /sbbs/fido/inbsecure/
2025-11-01 05:15:38 Non-secure Inbound directory: /sbbs/fido/inbound/ 2025-11-01 05:15:38 Outbound (BSO root) directory: /sbbs/fido/outbound 2025-11-01 05:15:38 Read 12 areas from ../data/areas.bbs
2025-11-01 05:15:38 Read 6 areas from ../data/badareas.lst
2025-11-01 05:15:38 Read 12 echo statistics from ../data/echostats.ini 2025-11-01 05:15:38 Importing /sbbs/fido/inbsecure/a9dguqf9.pkt (type 2+, 0.3KB) from 885:1/1 to 885:1/3
2025-11-01 05:15:38 Sanitized message attributes (LOCAL) at offset 111 of packet: /sbbs/fido/inbsecure/a9dguqf9.pkt
2025-11-01 05:15:38 The Clans League BD (885:1/1) To: The Clans League BD (885:1/3) NetMail received for robot: The Clans League BD
2025-11-01 05:15:38 The Clans League BD (885:1/1) To: The Clans League BD (885:1/3) Exported to /sbbs/fido/netmail/1.msg
2025-11-01 05:15:38 Deleting /sbbs/fido/inbsecure/a9dguqf9.pkt (from line 6452) 2025-11-01 05:15:38 /sbbs/fido/netmail/1.msg The Clans League BD (885:1/1) To: The Clans League BD (885:1/3) NetMail received for robot: The Clans League BD
2025-11-01 05:15:38 Deleting /sbbs/fido/netmail/1.msg (from line 7139) 2025-11-01 05:15:38 Touching robot semfile: /sbbs/data/clansibbs.now
2025-11-01 05:15:38 Writing 6 areas to ../data/badareas.lst
2025-11-01 05:15:38 Deleting /sbbs/ctrl/sbbsecho.bsy (from line 3231) 2025-11-01 05:15:38 SBBSecho (PID 46916) exiting with error level 0, Packets(1 imported, 0 sent)
```

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https://gitlab.synchro.net/main/sbbs/-/issues/1001#note_7827

Adding a new `IMPORT_ROBOT_MSG = 14` and returning *that* does work though...

```
2025-11-01 05:30:39 SBBSecho 3.31-FreeBSD master/320d6a775 Nov 01 2025 Clang 19.1.7 (PID 47735) invoked with options: -ce
2025-11-01 05:30:39 Configured: 1 archivers, 11 linked-nodes, 0 echolists 2025-11-01 05:30:39 NetMail directory: /sbbs/fido/netmail/
2025-11-01 05:30:39 Secure Inbound directory: /sbbs/fido/inbsecure/
2025-11-01 05:30:39 Non-secure Inbound directory: /sbbs/fido/inbound/ 2025-11-01 05:30:39 Outbound (BSO root) directory: /sbbs/fido/outbound 2025-11-01 05:30:39 Read 12 areas from ../data/areas.bbs
2025-11-01 05:30:39 Read 6 areas from ../data/badareas.lst
2025-11-01 05:30:39 Read 12 echo statistics from ../data/echostats.ini 2025-11-01 05:30:39 Importing /sbbs/fido/inbsecure/oey5pvuq.pkt (type 2+, 0.3KB) from 885:1/1 to 885:1/3
2025-11-01 05:30:39 Sanitized message attributes (LOCAL) at offset 111 of packet: /sbbs/fido/inbsecure/oey5pvuq.pkt
2025-11-01 05:30:39 The Clans League BD (885:1/1) To: The Clans League BD (885:1/3) NetMail received for robot: The Clans League BD
2025-11-01 05:30:39 The Clans League BD (885:1/1) To: The Clans League BD (885:1/3) Exported to /sbbs/fido/netmail/1.msg
2025-11-01 05:30:39 import_netmail() returned 14
2025-11-01 05:30:39 Deleting /sbbs/fido/inbsecure/oey5pvuq.pkt (from line 6453) 2025-11-01 05:30:39 /sbbs/fido/netmail/1.msg The Clans League BD (885:1/1) To: The Clans League BD (885:1/3) NetMail received for robot: The Clans League BD
2025-11-01 05:30:39 import_netmail(/sbbs/fido/netmail/1.msg) returned 14 2025-11-01 05:30:39 Touching robot semfile: /sbbs/data/clansibbs.now
2025-11-01 05:30:39 Writing 6 areas to ../data/badareas.lst
2025-11-01 05:30:39 Deleting /sbbs/ctrl/sbbsecho.bsy (from line 3231) 2025-11-01 05:30:39 SBBSecho (PID 47735) exiting with error level 0, Packets(1 imported, 0 sent)
```

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close https://gitlab.synchro.net/main/sbbs/-/issues/1001

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https://gitlab.synchro.net/main/sbbs/-/issues/1001#note_7828

Appears to be working perfectly now, thanks!

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